Young Persons Called to Private Grand Jury for Owning Books

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Just a few weeks ago, an FBI task force raided a home* in Portland, Oregon very early in the morning. They broke down the front door with a battering ram and threw in a stun grenade, which is non-lethal but produces a very loud and disorienting noise and a blinding bright light. The team locked down the building and secured the sleepy, compliant occupants. The operation was one of several which also occurred in Olympia, WA and Seattle, WA, involving some 60-80 officers.

Just who were these dangerous criminals, these domestic terrorists whose threat level is so high that an FBI team with stun grenades, battering rams, and assault rifles needed to burst into their homes in the wee hours of the morning?

Why, it’s these two young folks,

Leah-Lynn Plante:

and Matt Duran:

Reportedly, the FBI search warrant was for black clothing, paint, sticks, computers and cell phones, and ‘anarchist materials or literature.’ According to an FBI Domestic Terrorism guide published by greenisthenewred.com, “anarchists are criminals seeking an ideology to justify their actions,” and are “not dedicated to a particular issue.” Common meeting places are “college campuses, underground clubs, coffee houses/ internet cafes.” The implication is that owning “anarchist” literature is enough to indicate to the FBI that one is a criminal – even if that person happens to be a student studying political thought. Or maybe particularly if you are a student – the FBI document states that anarchists are “educated persons of various backgrounds, often students.”

What even counts as anarchist material? Given the vitriolic US political rhetoric of anti-socialism, you might think a book by Karl Marx or about Tommy Douglas would count. What about someone like Shulamith Firestone? Hell, what about Walt Whitman?

Leah-Lynn and Matt have since been subpoenaed and ordered before a Grand Jury hearing, which is a private hearing used to determine if there is sufficient evidence to indict someone with a federal crime. During the proceedings of a Grand Jury, the defendant is not allowed an attorney to represent her or him. This means that a Grand Jury is essentially a group of twenty-three jurors, a prosecutor looking to indict someone with a felony, and Leah-Lynn Plante, vegan. A Grand Jury is also secret, so we do not know and are not allowed to know what is going on in the courtroom.

Leah was first called before a Grand Jury back on August 2. She refused to co-operate with the jury proceedings, giving them only her name and date of birth. She refused to answer any other questions and explicitly stated she would not talk about any other people. Historically, the Grand Jury process was intended to protect citizens from slanderous or malicious prosecution. However,  Grand Juries have been used to isolate members of political activist groups and use the fear of imprisonment to gain information about other groups and persons. Leah was re-subpoenaed, and returned to court yesterday, where she again refused to co-operate. She has been re-re-subpoenaed without yet receiving a date for her next hearing.

All this is because someone vandalized a Seattle courthouse on May Day. Leah has publicly stated that she does not endorse what happened on May Day, and that she was not in Seattle during that time. She has made it clear that her refusal to co-operate is not a strategy to protect criminals, but is rather a protest against a legal system which is unconcerned with the civil rights of citizens. Considering that she could be held in contempt of court and sentenced to jail time, we should take what she says seriously. Matt Duran, also subpoenaed and brought before a Grand Jury, has already been held in contempt of court and is currently in U.S. Federal custody. His contempt hearing was made private by the presiding Judge, a move unprecedented since the McCarthy era.

You know, they arrested Emma Goldman a couple times. I learned that from reading about her. In a book I own.

click here for an audio interview on the history of dissent, political repression, and punk in the Pacific Northwest!

You can read Leah-Lynn’s statement here,
and you can read Matt Duran’s statement here.

For ongoing information from the source, check in with http://nopoliticalrepression.wordpress.com/

To find out more about the Grand Jury resistance, check in here http://saynothing.noblogs.org/

To find out how to support the resistors, check in at http://supportresist.net/

Updated: Write to Matt in Jail!

Writing to prisoners is an easy and important way to help ease the isolation of imprisonment. Please write letters to Matt!

* Editor’s note – for the past few days, this link was to an article about Leah-Lynn Plante and the Northwest Grand Jury on the National Lawyer’s Guild blog. The Lawyer’s Guild blog appears to no longer have any content posted on it.

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304 responses on “Young Persons Called to Private Grand Jury for Owning Books”

  3. This is really outrageous! Why can’t they find the real criminals. The problem is they are already in bed with each other!

    • It’s not about finding real criminals. It’s about striking fear into those who ask questions. Anyone who believes we have freedom here, in the US, is delusional. Plato’s Noble Lie folks…look it up.

      • Ah yes, striking fear into the hearts of people… Sounds like the same stuff religion feeds people. Unconditional compliance and everything will be alright or, think for yourselves and make you own decisions and you will burn in hell or rot in a cell (assuming your thoughts and decisions don’t reflect that of the gov/church)

      • Actually, you make a very valid point. Ben Franklin allowed the citizens to bear arms because he assumed about even 25 years or so the government would become corrupt and a revolution would take place. Knowing this, our government and FBI will take strides to make sure that this never happens.

    • Problem is big boys big toys ~ nothing better to do … I feel that people in many cases don’t knwo their rights and what they thought they knew was probly changed and posted in small print some where .. We have rules and regulations but I think if your of terriorist interest … you loss those anyway ~ As inmature as it is to say WHATEVER they will do what they want bc they can everyoone loves power but it’s what you do with it ( the importance of ) so as far as this goes Save the stun grenade for when the shit hits the fan someday , quit playin’

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  5. Well, you can have an attorney during a Grand Jury, he would simply play no role in the proceedings. And all that happens is the grand jury decides if there is enough evidence to support she may have committed a crime and then they would proceed to a full and fair trial. It’s still stupid and ridiculous, but the courts will still have to either drop the charges or have them found not guilty based on the evidence given here, who knows what other evidence the state has that we don’t know about.

    • In a basic sense that is true, but the historical record indicates that Grand Juries are often used to gain information from individuals in order to disrupt political movements, including the early red scare, during the Women’s movement, the Civil rights movement, the Vietnam War protests, the American Indian movement – many of these under the heading of COINTELPRO. The Grand Jury process was even previously to the Civil War as a way to locate and capture escaped slaves.

      You are also somewhat wrong about the courts having to drop charges or find them not guilty – a Grand Jury is to decide if a defendant can be charged at all, so one does not need to have actually been charged with anything in order to be brought before a Grand Jury. As we have seen, they neither charged, dropped charges, or found Matt Duran guilty – but they still managed to send him to jail for contempt of court.

      The Grand Jury can certainly be a reasonable process, but for over a hundred years it has been used as a way to intimidate and disrupt dissidents. Makes you wonder why the United States is the only common law country in the entire world which still uses Grand Juries.

      The Grand Jury was most famously abused during the McCarthy era of course. McCarthy’s greatest legacy is perhaps that his wholesale abuse of the Grand Jury process lead to the declaration that people don’t lose their constitutional rights during a congressional hearing – although there is a constitutional right not to speak and Matt Duran is currently in federal custody for doing just that.

      • “…although there is a constitutional right not to speak and Matt Duran is currently in federal custody for doing just that.”

        Unfortunately you do not have a right to not speak. You have the right to not have to testify against yourself or you spouse (another reason that the ban on gay marriage is unconstitutional). If you were a witness to a crime you cannot simply say that you choose not to speak.

      • actually the fifth amendment does give you the right to not speak, on the basis that anything you say could possibly be self incriminating…there is nothing in the constitution that says a witness HAS to testify in court…that is just the common practice…the entire ”contempt of court” charge is just a judges way of saying ”I don’t like your attitude so i AM SENDING YOU TO JAIL”…no trial, no jury, just a judge saying your guilty and off to prison you go, for however long the judge decides to leave you there…welcome to the United States of America… the home of FREEDOM

      • The provisions of the NDAA that would have allowed for indefinite detention of US citizens were removed before the bill was signed into law. It is still illegal to detain a US citizen on US soil without trial.

      • Actually, this could be done before the NDAA anyway I read somewhere. I think it was considered “legal” through an Executive Order or something of the sort. From what I can tell, the NDAA just makes it much easier to detain anyone. And yes, it was signed into law and then, as the person above stated, it was blocked by an injunction a week or so ago, then merely a day or two later, that injunction was already stayed by another judge.

    • Well, maybe if more people had taken the time to read the proposed Patriot Act and write to their representatives in Congress (as they did with SOPA), none of us would be reading of disgustingly unconstitutional behavior. But, back then, people were living in fear and gave up their liberties for the perception of safety. And we all know what Ben Franklin had to say about that…

    • In all likelihood the Feds have shaken someone down for names of “co-conspirators” (names that may have just been ‘convenient’) and now the feds get to play the “witch hunt” game… knowing that they can do so with relative impunity. Real first-class chickenshit… ^..^

    • them collage kids been readin’ to many books lol … raise tuition and lessen the quality of material covered … yield greater profits, basic capitalistic economics

      • If the government is in control of tuition fees and is dictating the quality of your education, you aren’t living in capitalism.
        Don’t turn this into an economic argument. Two people have been arrested and detained for the ‘crime’ of having different opinions. There is no need to bring anything else to the table.

      • I’m going to say that every law in place is an opinion of what is “right.” So, every time some one is convicted of a crime it is really a difference of opinion.

    • Cat loving bookmongers are the next most likely people to take down buildings. Second to “educated people.” Why is the government scared of ideas anyway. The need to be finding guns and bombs and people wearing turbans. When has an idea or set of ideals ever started a revolution? Never. Guns did. Bombs did. (SARCASM) but on the real, dough, between the government, the media, and previously deluded people, america has raised some grade A dumb fucks. Eventually, we’ll all be animals that think we’re human. Most people already are. The jump from ape to common man is smaller than common man to socrates. Brains are non existent, no one thinks for themselves. Does any one remember “think outside the box?” America built a box. Said, “think outside the box.” People were like, “How?” America replied, “it’s written on the inside of that cube. Check it out.” And here we are. Still trying to find out how to think outside the box, within the box. Homeless people. Lol how does that even exist? Because you made a box and people are too fucking dumb to step out of it. Leave the city. Find some woods, survive, and eventually thrive. Sitting on a corner, relying on others is ridiculous.

  13. Here is what can happen: #1. The grand jury finds no basis for an indictment. How? The accused (if innocent) can tell their side of the story to the grand jury. Majority vote for a “No-True Bill”, (non-indictment) then the accused is released (5th Amendment). I’ve helped someone in this position and the federal grand jury dropped it. Nill attorney fees. I’m the author of the book “The Hidden 4th Branch” – book about the power of the grand jury. THEN: #2: The accused can actually convince the grand jury to indict the FBI agents. WHAT YOU SAY? Yes, if the accused is innocent, and the FBI abused their powers 18 USC 242 (“Color of Law”), then the grand jury can switch focus and jail the FBI agents via INDICTMENT. The grand jury is both a “Shield” and a “Sword.” http://www.hidden4thbrach.com

    • Thanks Kelly, that’s great to know! I definitely did not know that the accused could come back and indict the accusers. But how often does that actually happen, and how often does it work?

    • How the heck are Matt and Leah supposed to know this information if they’re not allowed to have a lawyer. What’s wrong with this country? It’s going to shit. Bye bye futuristic world that could be star trek, hello another 100 years of theological bullshit wars.

  14. And what about the financial cost for these two people? Not only the attorney fees…(there is always attorney fees) but the time lost at work etc. I’d sure like to hear more about this. There is more to this story than said here???

  15. Guess all teachers can expect t!Areo be indited now. Does that mean coursera.org students and gcflearfree.org students will be indited? Since when is owning or reading a book a crime? Are pdf files and html files a crime too? Oh, no more androids, kindles, or libraries is that next? What about video books or auditory books, heck are they going to criminalize radio and tv and hulu, viemo, youtube, facebook, twitter, as well?

    • It specifically says ANARCHIST literature. So all those things you mention would have been included in the search warrant in case they included anarchist literature, which would then be used by the grand jury to determine whether to indict them. As would the absence of said literature, on said devices, analog or digital. There is no need to be alarmist about it.

  16. This is a clear violation of or constitution and a blatant attack on the fundamentals of what are nation stands for. There needs to be some action taken immediately!

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  21. We’re living in the early stages of Orwell’s “1984.” At this point, no individual who thinks for themselves are safe. This is very unsettling and the general public needs to be made aware of what’s going on here. I can’t believe they’re keeping this poor guy locked up. Why is there no national news coverage of this?

  22. Those who cannot remember history are condemned to repeat it. You don’t even have to go back to the 50′s to find an example, look at what happened at Waco. The FBI and ATF just murdered those people for no reason other than they could. And they got away with it too.

    • Usa is not USA its a Corporations. I am digging more and the 14th ammendment binds people with contracts to the “district of columbia” aka -usa- which is Washington dc. If you connect the dots this leads to the conspiracy of “illuminati” So if you are not affiliated “army/military ect.” it is safe to assume we can use the 5th amendment to our first. It also means we really don’t have to pay taxes. Because in truth we pledged to a lie. and we haven’t pledged truly to anything. Sooo. Lets keep digging yea? this is why we are seeing so many us veterans being detained because in a way they are bound to the “district of columbia and its CORPORATION.” Scary isnt it?

  24. Kelly’s right. Grand juries are often abused, like many other aspects of our judicial system, but they are also an essential tool. Not only can grand juries be used to charge FBI agents, judges, DAs, etc., they can also review the constitutionality of the law itself. Judges and prosecutors hate grand juries for this reason. They fear them, not because people often get indicted–they don’t. But being charged before a grand jury can be damaging to your career, and judges and prosecutors don’t particularly like that risk. They don’t want ordinary people to know that if they (the judges) break the law, you can bring criminal charges against them before a grand jury. A Texas man (forget his name) has successfully used the threat of grand juries to force police in his town to bring a person before a magistrate instead of to jail. According to the law (at least in Texas) if a policeman arrests you and brings you straight to jail, he is committing an act of aggravated kidnapping. He is required by law to try to find the nearest magistrate and bring you there.

  25. I’m curious as to the books they had that made them such a “danger” to the public and law enforcement. I probably either have some of them myself or have read them for a class when I was working towards my English degree at a private liberal arts college.
    It will be interesting to see how this plays out, although I am disgusted that these two young adults are being targeted in this matter. It will set a precedence for further ‘crimes’ in the future.

      • From another American POV, Lyndsy, THAT’S silly. Check the crime rate and abuse of governmental power in Australia. Yeah… I’ll wait. I WISH I lived in Australia, but alas… Racism or Fascism? So hard to choose…

      • “Check the crime rate”. That’s just the problem, are you willing to give up a basic right for “public safety”, this whole thing is about denying peoples right to free speech and free press out of concerns for “public safety”. Guns are the last line of defense against the FBI and government overreach. And yes untrained, outgunned civilians can take on well trained police or combat forces, source: Iraq and Afghanistan.

      • Please Check your facts, it is legal to buy and sell firearms in Australia. The industry is heavily regulated however. To own a rifle or pistol, all you need to do is claim sports or recreation, and produce either a gun club membership, or a letter from a farmer giving you permission to hunt on his farm (which farmers often do for a small fee). to own a shotgun you need to be a gun certified licensed security guard, which takes about a year. Once you are licensed you need to prove that you keep them safe and secure, ie a locked gun rack or safe, and ammunition is always stored separately.

        I’m not saying Australia gets it right all the time, we focus heavily on regulation and take it to extremes on occasions, but I feel happy knowing that my BASIC human rights are untouched here. I’m not happy about everything that happens, but I am free to voice my objections (which I often do) and I acknowledge that our system is always changing and evolving.

    • That’s the funny thing about you people, Europeans, Canadians, and Australians all think that they live in some free and righteous utopia. I’d argue the US still guarantees the most freedom of any country. I mean for gods sake the police have raided Australian bookstores for selling books that have been “refused classification”.

      • I think it’s funny that you feel the need to compare HOW MUCH freedom each country has…

        But if that’s the way you wanna play, i’ll take less freedom over getting shot by an idiot with a gun any day of the week. (check the crime rate in any west-european country against the U.S, all that “freedom” doesn’t amount too much when the probabiltiy of getting shot is one of the highest in the world)

  27. it’s very important that you DON’T misquote or misrepresent Leah if you’re going to write about this. Leah HAS said that she was not at the Mayday protests; she HAS NOT said that she “does not condone what happened on May Day”. Please either link to your sources or be accurate about how you portray people in these situations. This particular distinction is an important one, so don’t overlook it.

    • Yes, she has said that she doesn’t condone what happened on May Day:

      From Seattle’s The Stranger newspaper:

      ‘She also explained that she’s not condoning the May Day vandalism. “Just because I’m taking this stand does not mean I endorse anything that happened on May Day,” she said.’

      added the link to the body of the article.

      • What is the charge for owning a book versus reading it, versus glancing at it, versus helping write it, versus editing it, versus writing it, versus publishing it? What is May Day?

      • Nope, Brandon Kiley said that. She said, “Just because I’m taking this stand does not mean I endorse anything that happened on May Day”. Please refer to poster transvalue’s comment with regards to the value and distinction between Brandon’s journalistic interpretation (and in extension yours) and Leah’s actual words.

      • Yup, you are right. I have a longer reply down on transvalue’s comment. Thanks both for clarifying, and thanks for calling me out on quoting Brandon Kiley.

        article edited.

      • Actually, the logic of that statement doesn’t even imply that she doesn’t endorse what happened on May Day. It means exactly what it says, which is that her silence does not imply endorsement. It does not preclude any other reason for endorsement of what happened that day.

        Brilliant way to mislead people though.

  29. There’s an important difference between saying “This doesn’t mean I endorse X” and “I don’t condone X.” The first is a value-neutral statement whereas the second implies active opposition or rejection. Thus, I think the commenter a pacific northwest anarchist’s point stands.

    Otherwise, thanks for this very important piece. My understanding of the situation is the books are being used to implicate their owners in (illegal) actions. The same applies to the clothing ceased. “Young Persons Called to Private Grand Jury for Owning Black T-shirts” would work as alternate title in this sense.

  30. That’s true. Condone does imply that X is negatively valued, and endorse doesn’t do that. I reference The Stranger, who also used “condone.” Using their terminology so blindly was foolhardy, of course. I did read “does not mean I endorse” as a more active statement, perhaps mistakenly. I was blinded by italics!

    I like the “Black T-Shirts” title, too. There’s a lot to say about targeting clothing – one of the ways we create public representations of ourselves – as well as targeting books. As a writer and musician, I am most immediately concerned about the seizure of literature and media.

    Maybe even so far as “For Owning Computers?”

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    • Matt is being held in custody for contempt of court; you can find out more about that here. We’ll be running another article in a couple of days with more information and discussion.

      Leah has, as far as I can tell, never been held in custody. The subpoena is a summons to the hearing, rather than an arrest.

  35. This article is an example of what happens when we stop paying for news (and let trained journalists make a decent living). We get biased, incomplete, manipulative, one-sided stories like this one.

  36. If anyone needed proof of the U.S being the 4 reich, here you have it . I wish you all the best at these troubled times. Remember what John Lennon said- They are powerless against love and humor.

  38. The reason that grand jury hearings are private is so that if the government is found not to have enough evidence to proceed to trial, then the person accused doesn’t have a black mark agaisnt them, which in this era of everyone knowing everything, is actually kind of a blessing. all a grand jury hearing (which is the equivalent to a preliminary hearing for felonies, only those are on the public record, so all your friends and family and the news can see attend and see what you were accused of) determines is whether the state has met its initial burden of proof to bring the matter to trial. Nothing is decided there that would take your freedoms from you, it is quite the opposite. And you are allowed to consult with an attorney. If you want to be credible, state all the facts, not just the ones that support your argument.
    However, by refusing to cooperate and answer the questions either with facts to clear the matter up or by refusing to answer certain questions by “pleading the fifth” – which allows you not to answer if you fear the answer might in any way incriminate you – can and should lead to repercussions. If you did nothing criminal, answer the damn questions proving that the state hasn’t the evidence necessary to bring the matter to trial and quit wasting the grand jurors time and the taxpayer’s money. If you did something criminal, plead the damn fifth and if without your testimony the prosecution can prove the initial level of evidence necessary to bring the matter to trial, you will have a right to a lawyer. Grow the hell up. If you are stopped for speeding and refuse to give information regarding your right to drive (aka a license and registration), you will also be arrested – and no, you are not given the right to an attorney to determine whether you should provide the officer with that information or not, because The People that vote laws into effect or vote for representatives to do it for them, have determined that it is not cost-effective to require a potential defendant the right to an attorney at any time when there is no immediate loss of rights simply by providing the answers. You are not a hero and you are not defending liberties. You are acting childish and my assumption, as well as those that actually understand the system, is that you are as guilty as OJ was, speeding down the freeway to avoid facing trial for his actions.
    Answer the damn questions or plead the fifth and let it go to trial or not. There are enough liberties TRULY being invaded on this planet….your petty pleas for attention makes me embarrassed for you.

    • Dude, stop peppering your speech with antagonistic banter like “grow the hell up”. It neither makes you look smart nor mature yourself. It’s people like you, who can’t keep things civil, who don’t deserve credibility.

    • re: speeding, license, registration: not necessarily so. Freemen are extricating themselves from the corporate system that requires those things…successfully. insurance is another matter, as not having it could certainly do harm to others in the event of an accident. but most of the processes you mention are not constitutional for free individuals. Your life is traded on the stock market, because, at birth, you are registered as an asset of the corporation of the united states of america …and are considered property, this acquiescence to that standard is what puts us all at their mercy. you should do some research on this subject. Its clear you will be quite surprised to learn what it is you are advocating…against yourself.

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  40. Remember, a vote for Obama is a vote for tyranny, oppression and the destruction of our nation. You’ll see this play out before your eyes; through his efforts, our nation gets razed to the ground, & the people murdered and sent as slaves overseas. We’re just in the beginning stages of what he’s going to do. What they’re counting on is your incredulity, apathy & self-interest. People that put the laws above their own personal concerns cannot be so easily duped & destroyed.

  41. To address the particular concerns of these two young people, there’s nothing preventing the gov’t. from sending them overseas, to Guantanemo or elsewhere, on the whims of local clerks, officials and magistrates. This is communism, folks, wearing fascist clothes. It’s exactly what’s prescribed for “the peace” in the Iron Mountain Report (which you should google; you’ll find a free pdf online, and sites where it’s posted online, as well as a video in YouTube of the same name). One of the things called for is increasing confusion, invalidating national laws, substituting laws that make no sense, settling things by arbitration, taking away people’s rights, and legal defenses, including lawyers, and eliminating books. They want to eliminate any learning, while increasing your time at school, doing things by committee, diluting the lessons so they teach you nothing, and simultaneously do everything to hurt your health and brain. They want you dumb, compliant slaves, too exhausted to think or plan. And they especially want you dead, so you can’t have them jailed or killed for what they’ve done. It’s life or death. Do they have to kill you first, before you realize you must fight?

  43. Ok this is how it is in sweden already. The Police/Swedish equivavlent to the NSA/CIA have the right to enter any domocile and search it if they deem it necessary and detain a person for 24 hours and that is left to the individual officers and the DA.

  44. Emily, it states that the 2 young teenagers where arrested for having those types of books and that is all..what ever the other charges are going to be (and there will be charges added on) won’t show up until later on and it is called a frame job,using young people as a scare tactic for the rest of the USA’s people who do not follow nor trust the government…they are the ones in power right now so they have a lot of things they can do to influence people’s minds because statistics show that most american’s believe what they see on television and what is told to them by the news rather then open their own eyes to the reality of the world they live in now a days…for one i think it is wrong and we have a right as us citizens to own and read whatever books we want to..next thing you know ill be arrested for reading the types of genre i do like horror and suspense about killers and things like that and be called a murderer..and all i am is a 27 yr old mother of 2 boys trying to live a nice peaceful life with them…with the way the world is going that will be very hard to accomplish for any us citizen family..

    • I’m not saying that this is right – but you’re mischaracterizing it a tad.

      There was apparently a crime committed in May. For one reason or another, these two are suspected. They’ve listed “anarchist literature” on the search warrant, and now they’re being called before a Grand Jury.

      That’s all we know.

      We don’t know if there is real evidence linking either of them to the crime – hell, as far as I can see, we don’t even *know* that this particular crime is why they are under investigation. Aside from perhaps donating to a legal defense fund, there isn’t a lot we can do right now because of the very limited information we have.

  45. If you want to own some anarchist literature of your own, you can print this broadside that I made incorporating a Food Not Bombs cartoon. This is clearly persecuting people for beliefs, speech, clothing choices, reading matter, that is all clearly protected by the 1st Amendment. The federales involved in this should all be completely ashamed of themselves and I hope they get scolded by the jury at least 1/2 as badly as they deserve. “https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B5Nk0_PFSQbha0Rod3ptVXJHUm8″

  46. there is a lesson to be learned here…

    we live in times of representative democracy.
    it’s obvious that the representatives in the u.s. democracy are not representing the people, but the country.
    the country would never allow people to call for true democracy as being a direct democracy or anything close to that (switzerland for example), because the public would have a say on all decisions made by the country. we all know that in the u.s.a. the opinions and needs of the population, because the general public is not allowed to have opinions and needs, because all u.s. citizens obey the state, they have no opinions and needs. so if the u.s. were a true and direct democracy, no one would vote on anything, because americans don’t have opinions and needs they could vote for. here comes the obvious…
    this means that if an actual democratic system would be installed in the u.s. no one would participate leading to non-governance and, yeah, you know it: anarchy

    what do we learn?
    anything that promotes thoughts that would lead the u.s. away from a dictatorship hidden in a representative democracy with fixed elections leads to anarchy (terrorism, communism, whatever -ism the enemy of the state is at the moment)

    what should we do?

    there’s a lot to be done… i’ll just give a few examples that could keep you safe and “free” (free, when used in quotation marks always refers to the american meaning of the word free of course):

    obey the state and its representatives.
    sign up for voluntary work at a fema camp in your vicinity
    do not learn read.
    do not learn to count.
    do not buy technology.
    be a good slave.

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  49. sounds like the Gestapo or SS to me .. and I say that as a german .. Europe isn’t really better.. but maybe no it is the right time to leave the USA and never ever look back again.

    I hope both of them will be alright. Do you visit Matt or Leah..maybe both? Give them a bearhug from me.

    OMFG …

  50. So I’m a foreigner (I live in New Zealand)
    But dude.
    What the fuck.
    It’s been a while since I’ve lived back in NY but this shit is ridiculous.
    Grand Juries were always supposed to be for impeachment etc.
    Not vegans, regardless how smelly and hippyish they may be.

  51. Just a few questions to (hopefully) provoke further thought:

    I don’t know if Leah and Matt are practising anarchists or students studying political thought but, even if they are actual anarchists, is it illegal to be an anarchist in Oregan or the US as a whole? Unless the FBI found unregistered weapons and/or bomb-making equipment, I don’t see the legal justification for taking them before a Grand Jury.

    Do we know where Leah and Matt got their literature and clothing? If they were bought in stores, have the stores been raided and similar items seized? If not, why not? Do the FBI have a problem with taking the corporate might of WalMart or similar before a Grand Jury?

    I’m not familiar with procedures in the United States but I’m wondering why the FBI didn’t simply get a search warrant if they suspected that Leah and Matt possessed illegal materials at their home, or simply arrest them if they had evidence that incriminated them. As someone has suggested above, the tactics used do have the odour of scare tactics and it may be that the FBI expected to find more than they got at Leah and Matt’s home.

  52. Such a lovely young and brave lady. I would marry her at once and thereby give her french nationality and political asylum. Take my word for it.
    Joke apart, this is disgusting and in absolute contradiction with human rights or any democratic constitution you may think of.

    • as i understand, the point of the grand jury is to establish if there is grounds for prosecution.

      That then means that following this there will or won’t be a trial, at which, of course, Leah and Matt will be entitled to legal representation and the full process of the law. The grand jury is not going to convict them, the grand jury is going to decide whether there is evidence to show a crime may have taken place.

      It’s not that the state is removing their right to defence or a fair trial, lets be clear here.

  54. I’m concerned that this could be a test case for other things to come. The American legal system is already broken in most ways that count but if they want to institute true authoritarianism – which, I believe, is the medium term goal – they’ll need to move beyond broken into outright perverted.

    This case is interesting because the powers that be are doing something that is clearly contrary to the spirit of law in a democratic country. Can they get away with it? Well, the media’s quiet so apparently, yes, so far at least they can.

    So what next? Maybe next time they round up people at a demo they *don’t* let them go on bail a few hours later? Maybe they round up people guilty of incitement by publishing “subversive” material? Raid an organising meeting? Indefinite detention for all of the above? Death in custody (because, hey, chuck a bunch of soft middle class hippie types in with hardened gang bangers and what did you expect. Sure the fatality rate is a bit suspicious but can you *prove* they were executed)?

    All but the last example is, I’m pretty sure, already within the law as written, the question is, can they get away with it? And if yes, then why not the last stage? Why not camps? There are already right wing media pundits (Ann Coulter specifically, & more I think) “joking” about camps.

    It’s not about what they can do “legally”, it’s about what they can get away with.
    So again, the question, can they get away with this?

  55. Write to Ron Paul. If he is the defender of the Constitution as he says he is, he will look into this matter!

  56. Last time I checked US citizens are protected from self incrimination under the fifth amendment. Charging someone with contempt while exercising this right seems contrary no? Also I am not a lawyer but I believe that a US citizen is also protected under the constitution from unreasonable search and seizure. Therefore, the FBI would need a warrant which would be given on the basis of evidence and signed by a judge. If they need a grand jury afterwards to try and scare her into incriminating herself, then they must not have had enough evidence in the first place. She should find a good tort firm and sue the state for infringement of her constitutional rights.

  60. They weren’t called to grand jury for owning books. They were called to a grand jury for destroying government property. But that doesn’t make a nice headline, now does it?

  61. I’m a published author in the area of abuse of power issues (proparanoidpress.com) and concur about how GJ are rigged against the people. They are also used to cover up crimes by government, which is why you get ‘special prosecutors’ who call a GJ so they can hush and seal the evidence from reporters, and act like there was nothing useful revealed. These kids did the right thing – shut up.

    We could also talk about Anarchism vs. the FBI. Because the FBI writes a document which describes the profile of an Anarchist does not give them the right to presume guilt on such basis. UNLESS they also had SPECIFIC evidence linking them to a crime, it is FBI who is criminal, here. Moerover, ANARCHISM IS NOT EVIL nor violent as a philosophy, though like all philosophies some people carry it to extremes which may be. They simply believe there should be NO central government to insure personal freedoms remain open. Think in terms of ‘village rule.’ But because the Russian revolution involved bomb throwing and other violence blamed on Anarchists (potentially false flag), the term gets a bad rap and knee jerk thinking programmed by paranoid governments causes everyone to think that’s how they all think and act.

    I’,m thinking its time to buy as many Anarchist books and materials as possible to prevent the next logical Obama bin Laden or Rominoid action, book burning. All Fascist police states think alike, and that’s what we’ve allowed our country to become. I’d rather live under Anarchy than these goons. But I’d really prefer to live under 1776 Constitutional Law (proparanoid.wordpress.com – compare 1776 to 2012 and tell me where you think you live).

  65. FBI Doesn’t understand what Anarchism is it is not Punk it is not anti-social behaviour or wanton destruction… So glad I don’t live in USA Fed Govt acts like KKK. Its absolutely shocking.

  66. Yes there are laws in place ment to protect the U.S. cetizen and we have due process as well…but “we” (the U.S. cetizen) have to come to grips with the fact that our government will do whatever they choose to regardless of the laws we ma have so open your eyes people and see whats really happening in our country and stand up and fight!

  71. I see I have been silenced by Sound and Noise. Not surprising. I just fail to see how their photos are relevant. What exactly does a terrorist look like?

    • Their photos are relevant because that’s what these people look like. The purpose of these pictures is to introduce you to fellow human beings whose liberties are under attack. You should know who is being targeted by your government. Every single news item on Leah-Lynne Plante features an image of her.

      The point is that these kids are being labelled as domestic terrorists by the state. The people who bought into the abhorrent racial profiling of post 9/11 no longer have rhetorical recourse to support their views.

  72. Yes, this is a further travesty of justice, but there are very important lessons to be learned here. Arrests like this never happen unless there is sufficient evidence that a crime has been or will be committed. This evidence almost ALWAYS comes from informants, moles, and agents provocateurs.

    If you are a member of ANY left political organization, outside of the mainstream, you should ask yourself this question; Do both I and my organization take our party’s security seriously? Do you do a background check of new members? When any member of your organization/party/cell starts proposing violent action, do you eject him from your group? Do you exclude non-members from your meetings? Do you treat email and phone conversations as if they were subject to monitoring?

    If you answered “no” to any of those questions, then you and your organization don’t take your own security seriously, and you are likely to face similar treatment at the hands of state security forces.

    These two people have been arrested to get information WHICH THE STATE ALREADY HAS. There is an informant within the organization who the prosecutor wishes to protect. Pressuring these two kids for the information is simply providing a “legitimate” source and cover for the mole.

  73. @cameowalkin:
    I hope you’re not pretending that a Republican presidency will be any better than Obama. Remember, the Patriot Act was put in place by the last one we had.

    Gary Johnson 2012! I won’t throw away my vote for the 2 ineffective (or worse) candidates.

  74. Doesn’t surprise me at all. Our constitutional republic has become a tyrannical corporatocracy, a fascist police state. They began ramping it up big time under George W. Bush, it’s gone even further under Barack Obama, and Obama or Romney would continue to expand it. The stuff that the two major parties (two wings of the same beast) agree on is much more important and troublesome than the issues (the divide and conquer issues) that they traditionally disagree on.
    Regarding the Grand Jury, the author is incorrect when he says it’s a group of judges. A Grand Jury is a jury. Its members are regular citizens, our neighbors. It is not a trial jury. It comes before the trial jury. Its job is to receive complaints, decide whether those complaints are valid, investigate, subpoena, and indict if they believe its warranted. It does operate fairly secretly. It’s supposed to. The Grand Jury is considered by many to be the “Hidden 4th Branch” of government, and is a corrupt government’s worst nightmare. A citizen grand jury, doing what it is intended to do is one of our most powerful tools against corrupt government officials and corporate cronies. The problem is that most grand jury members don’t understand the power they actually have. They are influenced by corrupt judges, district attorneys and county counsel, who act as gatekeepers and use their positions of authority to keep grand juries under control. If more grand jury members knew the full power they had, they could prevent these gatekeepers from perverting the process.

  76. The National Defense Authorization Act passed at the end of last year and was signed into law by the President and the media let it slide with hardly a mention. Isn’t it sad and horrifying that this nation has reached the point where a centuries old basic human right is lost without a whimper?

  77. The biggest slap of all is if they were the ones who really committed the crime.. Just because they put up two pretty faces with a fat cat in a picture doesn’t mean anything.
    I mean, there is a chance they did commit the crime, being arrested and all..
    If it was written from that basis, you all may have completely different attitudes:

    “A courthouse was broken into and vandalized, and following leads and judging off of two students standings on the government, their homes were raided where literature and other items often held by persons who believe in an “anarchist” theory were found to be.
    While both students were faced in court, both insisted on remaining silent”

    HOLY COW how its written can portray two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT feelings on these people??

    What if they did? Your Courthouse? Your child’s and your own social security info, birth certificate, family certificates were in, and lost? Crap thats a different point of view..

    This may just be another ploy to turn Americans against the Government.. and really, after all, that is what the true “terrorists” have stated from day 1 as one of the top 5 things they need to do to crumple westerners.
    We all know the problems of the world, yes there are people with power who abuse it, welcome to the history of man.. Sometimes people fail to understand that maybe people who do things, do it for a better good.. I guess Im stuck on it, and rather not waste any of my time letting it bother me. I work, I pay taxes, I support my son, I follow my dreams.. To set aside any time to pick apart things I cannot have any control over is just useless. Media twists work both ways, from the good side, and the bad side..

    If they are innocent, may they be free, either way, whoever did it, let them be thrown in jail..

    • Someone broke windows on a courthouse, no one broke into it, and no one stole social security info, birth certificates, etc.

      They caught him. He was a homeless man from vermont.

      Leah-Lynne and Matt Duran have not been arrested or charged with anything.

      • Well, Matt has been arrested since then, but he’s being held in contempt of court, presumably for being unwilling to participate in the grand jury, not as a direct result of the mayday event. Since the contempt hearing was reportedly made private by the judge, I guess we’ll have to wait for confirmation on that though;

  79. Remember remember the fifth of November
    Gunpowder, treason and plot.
    I see no reason why gunpowder, treason
    Should ever be forgot…

  80. Be careful what you say, that could be you that gets their door busted down next. We have no freedom of speech anymore, our government is corrupt. It is no longer for the people by the people. They have almost enough prison space for anyone who does, says, reads and soon those who think on a level that might be offensive.

  81. Hi, I’m Bill, and I’m an anarchist. Anarchists don’t believe that anybody has the moral right to be the ruler of other people, and that all relationships should be voluntary. Beyond that, you’ll have to figure out for yourselves. Some anarchists are religious people who think that loving your neighbor is more important than using the state to make them behave the way you want. Others are non-religious people who don’t want gods telling them what to do. Some anarchists wear black because they’re tired of tie-dye, or because it always goes with other black clothes, or because it doesn’t show dirt as much, or because all the other cool kids are wearing it, or because it annoys the cops.

    Some anarchists are young aggressive kids with too much spare testosterone who like to destroy other people’s stuff, instead of getting along with other people, but most of them will grow up. Some are old university professors who write books and magazine articles about what the state is actually doing. (The FBI likes to scare the public about the former type, but the latter are far more subversive.)

    And while the Constitution isn’t perfect, it’s a lot better than what the Government’s doing today, and while the First Amendment protects all kinds of speech and press, it’s _especially_ intended to protect political speech and press, especially about ideas the government doesn’t like, such as not liking governments.

  82. ENCRYPT EVERYTHING WITH HIDDEN VOLUME. Always maintain plausible deniability about whether or not you even have the ability to decrypt it.

  84. ” It is still illegal to detain a US citizen on US soil without trial.” Ummm just to point out that’s why we have a nice prison exchange program with other countries where the US can send “citizens”. Its worked great against Muslim Americans without most caring. All you have to do is make a good story of “potential terrorist” and most Americans will sell out the US Constitution on their neighbor!

  85. So does that mean any Nozik or Wolfe “jurisprudence lit” must be burned? Shall we desecrate Nozik’s grave just to show these damn anarchists that McCarthy means business?

  88. Meanwhile, those responsible for the economic meltdown and bailout by taxpayers are enjoying their corporate executive bonus money. How many of them have been prosecuted? I forgot.

  90. this country has gone to shit. it’s corrupt through and through. you can’t blow a whistle or tattle or complain to accomplish anything. we just need to clean house; execute everyone in the world governments and start over. but the love of money will corrupt everyone again in the future so we’re screwed. we cannot have a working world as long as we keep pushing a monetary system. we need to get rid of money and power. with machines steadily replacing humans in the work force, and free energy sources producing the electricity for the machines, products will soon be made at 0 cost with 0 employees. but no citizens will have any money to buy products. at that point money will become obsolete. i guess all we have to do, to end government corruption and stop the world from depending on money, is to sit back and wait for the world to fail naturally.

  92. DO any of you have a civic mind in the slightest? Anarchy, even peaceful exercise, is not the way to go. NOthing would ever get done. Fringes would still exist, as they do in every facet of political ideology.The biggest problem with our country today is that our core values are skewed. No one is honest, responsible or accountable for their thoughts and actions. Most of this generation, the Millenial, dont really care about anything but being “stars” or “successful individuals”. You covet Hollywood and videogames, musicians (if you wanna call them that) and those with $$$$.The globalization through telecommunications has put the world at your fingertips and you have no real world experiences. Many of you have never been to a trial, sat down with a retired veteran, or even applied for a passport. Pixels and smart phones will never open you to the amazing world you are letting go of. The world we let slip away with every Starbucks coffee and new car, new smartphone, another horrible rendention of a great book on film. You all like the quick easy routes to happiness, justice, family, and beliefs. You have no idea how important it is to be literate and know how to illustrate your ideas clearly to an actual human being, group, or nation. The government is bad, it is a representation of its people. We are not a civic mind or virtous people. We can look around us and see capitalism and democracy do not work, but what would you replace it with? Anarchy?!!? Most of you have never ben in a fight for your life or known someone who is truely evil. Why? Because the government has worked very hard at protecting you from these things. If you see an injustice, gain support and identify its cause. Make them responsible and accountable. FOr those who dare have children in an increasingly hostile population crisis, teach those children to be truthful even if it leads to their deaths, to be respoinsible for all of their actions, and to desire accountablity for the act. I know this a bit off topic, but some of these comments are horrible to read and ridiculous in some cases. Not all of them I should add, but many of these statement seem like a nonuniformed rant about a subject you dont even care about: freedom. Do thank a service member for defending those freedoms you still have today please. They deserve your respect, and they also deserve your commitment to sending them in the right directions to fdefend our freedom. THey dont pick the conflicts. The house and senate we elect do…

  93. Fuck the Government…Fuck the FBI….Fuck the DEA…All entities used to bastardize the constitution…and you wonder why the USA is failing/waning….

  94. Thank you Matt & Leah for standing up not only for your beliefs and your rights as a citizen but standing up for all of us! No matter how you dress it up “Bullshit” always turns to working out to be BULLSHIT!

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  99. If a picture is worth a thousand words is the crime of drawing 1,000 times more punishment than the written word. And a sound travels faster than images or wotds does that #an sound crimes get reduced time? Look out the I know what you were going to do next police are coming is that why thr police iq is not allowed to be 133 and is prefered to be around 102 to 103, so they believe the bs the preach!?

  102. BACK STORY

    I know at least Leah-lynn Plant had been found with another squatter in a woman’s home in Portland. The homeowner had somehow been under the impression that the bank had taken her home and that they were there to protest for her by occupying it… Eventually the homeowner found out that she had still been the rightful owner all along, and she called the police to get them out. She has been in bad light before.

  105. what is more criminal? owning subversive literature or kicking down someones door with a gang of thugs and terrorizing them with stun grenades and automatic weapons and more than likely physical brutality before dragging them from their home for being free thinkers?

  106. They can have an attorney present when they testify before the grand jury and, if they are wise, they will follow the advice of counsel and take the 5th, refusing to answer any questions in this witch-hunt.

      • I’ve served on a grand jury and defense lawyers are allowed to be present. They cannot interact with the proceedings but they are there to observe that all evidence presented is done so legally. Plus, defense can see the approach the prpsecution is taking so they can form how they want to proceed.

        Grand juries are not some super secret lair. Members are not allowed to talk about the events because doing so piblically can taint the minds and opinions of any future jurors should a criminal case take place. There is a lot of misinformation in this article. While the charges might be bullshit, that doesn’t negate that there is a lot of misleading and flat out incorrect information being presented here. In retrospect I’m glad I had to do two weeks of grand jury service. It’s extremely eye opening. Spreading incorrect information is not helping these two people.

  107. I don’t know if Jordan has ever been indicted or called before a grand jury, but his advice is not smart. Answering the govt persecutor’s questions will not clear anything up. It will allow them to fish for other ways to “get” these two. For example, if they say something false by simple mistake, i.e. recollecting that it was on a Tuesday instead of a Thursday, they can be indicted for perjury. There is nothing to be gained by testifying before a grand jury when a prosecutor is seeking to indict you. As the saying goes, most grand juries will indict a ham sandwich if asked to. In short, this isn’t a fair fight and these two kids should know that, and act on it, which will make it a tad more fair.

  108. I own a copy of Jerry Rubin’s “DO IT!, Scenarios of the Revolution”. I could donate this to the grand jury if they want literature about revolution, this book should scare the be-esus out of them.

  110. ‘If you’ve been to jail for justice, then you’re a friend of mine’, a song written by a dear friend, Anne Feeney, from Pittsburgh, a song high on my favorites list. On top, with several entries just below (like ‘I’m not a Marching Anymore’), by Phil Ochs, is ‘We’re the Cops of the World’. If you are a performing vocal artist, I urge you to sing it and prepare to be “a Friend of Mine”. I believe (sorry, Sonny) that this song broke the camel’s back and got him (strangled in Cairo and, later) killed. It is clearly, to me, the most powerful set of words in the English language. Please, out there, channel Phil & Anne and write/perform such anti small “g” god stuff.

  111. Her case is deleted from National Lawyers Guild, as if it never existed…
    BUT Google do some “caching” / store webpages.
    and it still exists there.

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:cO6OpSPh3oEJ:nationallawyersguild.wordpress.com/2012/09/11/do-you-have-the-right-to-remain-silent-the-plight-of-leah-lynn-plante-2/+&cd=1&hl=no&ct=clnk&gl=no&client=firefox-nightly

    http://nationallawyersguild.wordpress.com/2012/09/11/do-you-have-the-right-to-remain-silent-the-plight-of-leah-lynn-plante-2/

  116. “The two enemies of the People are criminals and government. So let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution. So the second does not become the legalized version of the first.” –Thomas Jefferson.

  117. “Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide. It is in vain to say that democracy is less vain, less proud, less selfish, less ambitious, or less avaricious than aristocracy or monarchy. It is not true, in fact, and nowhere appears in history. Those passions are the same in all men, under all forms of simple government, and when unchecked, produce the same effects of fraud, violence, and cruelty.” (U.S. President John Adams)

  118. “Liberty cannot be preserved without a general knowledge among the people, who have a right, from the frame of their nature, to knowledge, as their great Creator, who does nothing in vain, has given them understandings, and a desire to know; but besides this, they have a right, an indisputable, unalienable, indefeasible, divine right to that most dreaded and envied kind of knowledge, I mean, of the characters and conduct of their rulers.”
    – U.S. President John Adams.

  119. “There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty.” — U.S. President John Adams.

  120. I know I’m going to get raped in comments about this one, but why is everyone so quick to jump and assume that they are innocent, We have no idea what information the goverment has found. This couple for all we know could have been planning a terrorist attack. Just because there students and the broad is a vegan doesn’t mean there innocent. The problem with americans is that we assume the terrorists are gonna be all people from the middle east, when in fact they can be anyone. Yes if it is true in the end that this was the case and that the two people were 100 percent are innocent, then for sure that is a huge problem. But the goverment has clearly seen something different. And just because some girl says shes a vegan and wouldn’t do anything blah blah doesn’t mean shes telling the truth. And also you shouldnt defend them because there students. Look at columbine, virginia tech, and the dark knight shooting, all students.

    • I agree, people are jumping the gun way too soon. Don’t just read some random dudes ppost and assume its the truth. Dumb fucking americans

    • So a few windows were broken and a fire didn’t break out… and there wasn’t enough evidence to arrest these individuals before there was a warrant. The warrant is for said items, which are not evidence of the crime… got it… and we are spending how much federal money for this raid and trial???

      So we didn’t sign a hold harmless form for the protest, and someone did something sub-violent. And the public is unsafe/it’s safety has been breeched how?

      The protest was in regards to the failure of the government to protect us from criminals who traded our futures away and crippled the economy we all work so freakin hard to keep going. How come we can’t we raid investors homes, and account manager’s offices without evidence???

      This is a heavy hand for some fu@#in hippies!!!

      Let’s spend some resources prosecuting gangsters that stole our jobs, our parent’s savings, and grandparents retirements. Let’s search their homes for their disdain for everyone but themselves. Let’s give a grand jury trail to the people who made the most money during the recession, just to make sure that we don’t let a criminal make us unsafe.

      property damage in the midst of self expression VS. financial manipulation of the world’s investments/futures in Mega-international markets (biggest socialization of losses EVER)

      maybe the grand jury trail could question the FBI why they attack the individuals pointing out mass-crime by those who hide behind veils of money and lawyers, instead of some meek vegans stnading up like Americans to brutal economic violence!?!

      • sry, didnt necessarily mean to reply to Justin.
        Yah, we don’t know they are innocent or not. But there wasn’t enough evidence to arrest them that day or that week…? Nor before they did the raid.

        also, sry, last two sentences, should read why they [don't] attack … instead of [attacking]

        I aint afraid of hippies, vegans, occupiers, or burners… give me a break
        I’m afraid of cops feds rich people w/ disdain for humanity and politicians and agents of interests backed with large sums of money.

  121. Well you can’t trust the courts that’s for sure,they’re like our Government,which is corrupt.Best thing for them to do at their next hearing is say the one word courts hate to hear I INVOKE !

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  123. This is absolutely fing ridiculous.
    I feel like when these things come up and we (certain some people) try to put it out there, a mass of people (sheeple) look and nod and think whatever it’ll never happen to me.
    And then I have to wonder: what the bloody heck is wrong with this picture??

    Thank you for posting.

  124. The proof is in the picture, Matt is obviously working with the infamous villain Doctor Claw. Look at him stroking that cat.

  125. There is a lot erroneous information/apparent misunderstanding on the court/criminal justice system in this comment thread:

    The police or a district attorney makes a criminal complaint against an individual or other legal entity — that is, the police/DA “charges” them with one or more violations of federal and/or state law, and/or county/parish/city ordinances; i.e., with a crime.

    The Grand Jury hears the evidence the government — a prosecutor or (assistant) district attorney — presents to it. After hearing the evidence, the Grand Jury decides whether it is sufficient to indict the individual — meaning that the Grand Jury must be convinced that there is (good) enough evidence to demonstrate that the defendant probably committed the crime.

    If the Grand Jury determines that there is NOT sufficient evidence to indict, the individual is released on those charges; normally the charges are dropped, but not always — sometimes the police continue their investigation to find more or better quality evidence, which may be presented to a Grand Jury at some time in the future.

    If the Grand Jury finds sufficient evidence to indict the defendant, then defendant is arraigned in the appropriate court. Once arraigned, the defendant may do one of several things: reach a plea agreement with the DA’s office, plead guilty, plead no contest, or plead not guilty.

    If the defendant pleads guilty, no contest, or agrees to a plea bargain, court must then actually accept the guilty plea, no contest plea, or plea bargain, and decide what sort of sentence the defendant receives; the court does not have to accept any of them; in the case of capital crimes where the death penalty is requested, the court usually does not accept the guilty or no contest plea, but requires a trial by jury.

    If the defendant pleads not guilty, then a trial is scheduled and conducted. Once the prosecution and defense arguments are complete, the jury decides whether the defendant is guilty. If not guilty, the defendant is released on those charges. If guilty, then the court determines the sentence.

    Appeals are filed as appropriate.

    Obviously, the details vary slightly by jurisdiction, but the general procedure is the same.

    *****
    I am appalled at the amount of misunderstanding about the criminal justice system displayed in these comments…..this is 8th grade civics class material…..
    Obviously, there has been a significant lack of basic education about how our government works being perpetrated over the last 30+ years…..
    Amazing…..

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      • Of course it was happening under other presidents…….Barry is simply arrogant enough to destroy the Constitution in a more public mannner. The only interests our “public servants” represent are their own. Want to know if the divide and conquer strategy works? Just take a good look around…………while we tear one another apart over racial issues, politics, and class distinctions, the Washington elite on both sides of the aisle are sitting in their private sanctuaries laughing hysterically at our stupidity!

  130. Much as it is comforting to many to indulge in conspiracy theories and paranoia, activities like this by elements of the FBI and various other police and investigative agencies fall under a much simpler aegis. Bureaucracy and career advancement. When the FBI goes on “terrorist” hunts it is more about securing funding for themselves and their local, regional and national offices, getting their “tickets punched” with a few convictions, and in general creating the APPEARANCE of protecting the “American” people from all threats, domestic and foreign. They also get practice in using their various implements of destruction and surveillance.

    I live in Madison, Wisconsin, where it is beyond the bounds of thinkable thought to view the FBI, CIA, DEA, ATF, ICE, and any number of other agencies as something as mundane as collections of careerist bureaucrats and deadbeats feeding at the government trough. They are the real moochers that Romney complains about. All you need to do is put yourself in their shoes. Are these some of the great minds that stood out in school, head and shoulders above the rest? Did they enter the FBI, for instance, after Summa cum Laude at Harvard, followed by stints as Rhodes scholars? EXTREMELY unlikely.

    You can anoint them to greatness all you want, but that would be for purposes other than dealing effectively with the situation at hand. Recognizing the actions of careerist bureaucrats for what they are is the only REAL way of finding a way or ways to correct the situation. I can tell you what the result is here of paranoid ideology: whining. Sophisticated, hapless whining, promoting the egos of the whiners within their peer group(s), and nothing more.

  131. when they can not prove you committed a crime they will suggest you may have or may in the future commit a crime based on what you read and listen to……sound like Stalinist Russia…

  132. I understand they may be innocent and have been treated unfairly… conversely, if police burst into my house and accused me of things I had no knowledge of,, I sure wouldn’t be stubborn in court. Refusing to speak may cause them to look guilty. Why be obstinate if you have nothing to hide….?

  133. Over my dead body will Fahrenheit 451 become a reality.. douche bag “cops” and “agents”. What ever happened to Serve and Protect? It’s obvious the FBI are the ones doing the terrorizing. There should be a bureau of investigation for the FBI. They’re a domestic threat to the People, apparently. God forbid the iron clutches of control that religion has fades away through wisdom and information.. When the Firemen and FBI start burning books and the “Spanish Inquisition” becomes more apparent, I say we start enforcing our own constitutional rights and amendments, it’s the only thing keeping the likes of communism and/or socialism out of the system. Well not the only. All of us have a hand in maintaining our freedoms. TAKE YOUR POWER BACK!

  134. Many of you cited laws and statutes – it doesn’t matter. The government is so large and we’ve put in people who just don’t care about the law. Tell me: what are you going to do if the FBI and Federal Government decide to secretly execute these two? It’s an extreme case, but not outside the realm of possibility. Who the hell knows who the government has picked up and shipped off to secret prisons? People get upset for a short time about how awful our system is and what terrible things the government does but nothing of substance ever happens. We go about our lives and focus on distractions (sports, entertainment, gossip, elections) while heinous acts are committed.The Law only pertains to the people who follow it – clearly the government will shape laws to increase its power to the public or it will blatantly ignore what’s on the books. In 2 months none of you will remember this and these two people will be living a hell we can only imagine – constant anxiety caused by government prosecution or imprisonment in a federal prison. This isn’t a unique story, unfortunately.

  136. So where’s the full story? You can’t just end up with a warrant for an FBI raid no less, simply for being in possession of anarchist literature.

  137. “even if that person happens to be a student studying political thought. Or maybe particularly if you are a student”
    I don’t think you need to study any subject to be allowed to read any book. this kind of sentence, if you guys go this way, in a couple of years you’ll have the fbi searching your houses and taking books because “you’re not studying this, are you?”

  138. be careful. be really careful. usa is becoming more and more something like a cool and fashion north korea.
    it may be, still, a democracy in the constitution, but the authorities work just like in a dictatorship.

  139. How come is it illegal to be an anarchist in the USA? It’s a political choice like any other. Is that the “land of the free”? Besides, anarchism is the most liberal choice among all political options. I seriously doesn’t understand a bit.

    • I don’t think it’s illegal to be an anarchist, they’re just often investigated for their ‘high potential’ to commit crimes. Soo I guess when someone spray painted stuff on a court building, the FBI made some (probably completely) spurious associations between this couple’s supposedly anarchist activities and a crime. The think I’m wondering is how/why they had warrants to investigate the couple in the first place. What kind of judge would grant that sort of Gestapo-like activity? Oh, that’s right, the “Patriot Act” made it much easier for federal agencies to commit gross violations of civil liberties…..

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  144. And there was me thinking the UK justice system was crazy. Got to hand it to you flag waving American’s your government is as mad as a box of frogs. I’m currently selling tin foil helmets on E-Bay if you wish to buy some to protect you from the spy rays.

  146. seek the truth before you go propagating mis-information. its easy to be upset that a bunch of kittens were euthanized but if you found out they were older cats and all suffering with a very contagious disease no one would be protesting. Don’t start waving your banners without searching for the true story. THAT is whats wrong this country right now…..too many band wagons.

  148. I propose that we not only refuse to talk to the FBI, but also any official in the Judicial system, any politician and any law enforcement until they repent in shame for being traitors. We hear the idea that good Muslims should actively denounce bad Muslims. Well I say good politicians and police should denounce this treasonous tyranny. Not only refuse to talk to them, but refuse them EVERYTHING. At restaurants, refuse to serve them food. At grocery stores, do not ring them up at the register. At hospitals, refuse to help them let them suffer a they make others suffer. If you are a sanitation worker, do not pick up their garbage, If you drive a taxi, refuse to pick them up, if you deliver anything, don’t deliver their stuff. If you repair things, do not repair their things. Let them rot until they give these young people justice AND beg for forgiveness.

  149. I am inclined to say something is missing from this story until I remember how I was taken in to the Secret Service office at 16 years old for a videotaped interview after protesting the first Gulf War. Some goon was assigned to spend tax payers money to investigate me for months. He wrote a report that I got through the Freedom of Information Act (although they withheld some pages) that came to amazing conclusions such as ‘she was born at the wrong time, she should have been a hippie.’ True story. These things have been going on for a long time.

  150. you guys are ALL retarded. you live in this country, and by doing so accept the laws and proceedings. like it or get out. end of story. you wouldnt stay with a significant other if you couldnt accept them for who they were. this isnt YOUR country, this is OUR country and until we can change things, we are all stuck in it like it is. so, you can either complain about this shit until the cows come home, or you can get out there and do things the right and legal way. it takes time and ALOT of effort. most of us are entirely way too poor to afford the time it would take to see the change come to fruition. but on the flipside, complaining about everything just makes you a complainer and people start to lose interest over your complaints. sad but real social truth. making a website to complain on doesnt help the situation. all it does is ease your own tension.

    • Wow, You contradict yourself alot. You are poor. WHY are you poor….. Um…. READ a little bit more baby cakes. Umm… wow you never had a long relationship…… that would be hard to just accept someone… It does tend to take a little suffocation at times, work, and of course informing. But then again your anectdote is unhinged. America has no darn relationship with our government. Our words dont count. So i feel sorry for your significant other a little if you were to apply it to your life.

  152. Number of people in jail for owning books: at least 2

    Numbers of bankers arrested after the massive fraud that caused an entire global economic collapse: 0

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  157. Why is the FBI so interested in these two. Did they kill someone or rob a bank? Are they putting kiddie porn on the internet? it doesn’t appear so. It appears if they have done anything wrong it’s their alternate beliefs .The FBI has a history of checking up on citizens whose only “crimes”are criticizing the government. When I got back from “Nam” the CID and FBI had a” discussion” with me over comments I made about the war. They wanted to know if I was a Communist. F them. I believe in human dignity and everybody deserves it.Our government and our politicians (none of them) will protect the defenseless. It is up to “We the People” to do it

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  164. You have as much freedom as you can afford. It doesn’t matter where you live. It has always been this way, so nothing new here.

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  167. While I don’t generally like anarchists, it looks to me that there was no real reason for this raid other than getting those who have free minds out of the population. I am a libertarian and prefer a much smaller government. I also believe that everyone should be protected by the Bill of Rights, not just those who fall in lock-step with the main stream parties and ideas.

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  171. if they know who was critical of their actions they will attack you.the rule of law does not apply to any of them.i criticizedthem over 17 years ago and have been attacked ever since.have had my life destroyed,all of my property taken,been subjected to all types of physical and mental abuse.to this day i’ve not been able to retain an attorney for representation or even legal advice.they have destroyed my whole career and life for simply stating my opinion and refusing to join them in their war on drugs.they have even attacked my kids in school and used racial propaganda in things that they have done to me and my family.they buried other people in my dad’s buriel plot just to hurt me cause they didn’t like my opinion of the system.they are the true terrorist and experts at intimidateing the citizens of this great country of ours.its very sad what our country has come to when the elected officials let this go on and the citizens have no re-course what so ever.

  172. im sure grand juries happen to innocent people all the time. or maybe, just maybe something is going on and we dont know the entire story. i have no thoughts as of yet. not enough info to chant “hell no, we wont go”. lol

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  176. Reblogged this on Prepper Politics and commented:
    While I don’t really like anarchists, wrong is wrong. Having political views that don’t fit in the main stream is part of being an American. I don’t have to agree with your political standings and beliefs, but everyone has the right to their own opinion.

  177. This is just really and truly awful. It’s a crying shame that our own government is so threatened by a little vandalism that they would revoke human rights to the point of farce. I won’t even start on how patently wrong the definition of anarchism is, not to mention the fact that it’s usually “educated” people that hold such apparent non-beliefs. Hmmm…suddenly it makes sense why the ‘Merican government is so keen to let education fall by the wayside.

  179. Sad irony in this…this was an FBI raid…an FBI operating under a president often maligned as un American, a socialist, communist, radical, community organizer, one subverting real American ideals. Guess what? It is he on whose desk the buck stops when it comes to civil liberty, due process, etc. time and time again we are seeing that president Obama is not to be trusted, yet not for the reasons offered by the Republicans.

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  182. If we were to cite some of the statements of past presidents and supreme court justices, then we too might find ourselves blinded by flash grenades and facing secret grand jurys. Wake up and realize that you are not in Kansas anymore, you have been teleported through time to the new Nazi Germany. Its time to leave.

  183. This is why our government is failing, really a raid on two students because of their books? We are a free speech country having those books is another part of our freedom to speak and read what we want. To think that the wasted their time and are still wasting their time with dealing with this when there is bigger issues at hand. smh

  185. wow. this is an article about green and red anarchy. now the distracting concepts of ben franklin.who had some great ideas but was not perfect. while i respect him for a lot of his ideas. there is a distraction from the get go. something a general knock on the door would not suffice. saw it done to wealthy neighbors, they shot their tiny dog because it barked(it was scared) and essentially had the wrong people. not saying that is the case. don’t worry about their representation as anarchist. they will probably be probonoed by someone well versed in the law, guilty or innocent. the point is the disruption of civil liberties. the non disclosure of facts they and we are not given but have rights too. what was found, were we all in danger. or is being an anarchist going to get you arrested. when i was mad at my boyfriend i put my copy of the scum manifesto on the living room table (he would laugh) (he bought it for me) anyway, i think this is telling us that we are going to be violated guilty or innocent our right are being taken away. HOW DO WE AS CITIZENS TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK. ICELAND, HELP US!!! but really got any idea besides most of the comments i read then had to stop cuz you were not solving the real issue. anyone??? i am still thinking, what to do. time to hide all my social ecology books. but i am of color. they won’t call me anarchist, just militant. but they may be coming for all of us??? even if it is just a distraction. government opposed indefinite detention without a speedy trial. a form of torture and terrorism

  187. its sad how many people have no clue what is going on with FEMA, or that it even exists. THOSE are the people who will be free, the weak and the clueless, while the fighters, intellectuals, and individual anarchists are locked away so there’s no one left to fight. next thing you know, all the homeless people whose taxes they are not paying threaten supporting our countries debt issues, they’ll be tossed away with out a key as well.
    we are all doomed, if your a minority, if you’re a free thinker, if you’re homosexual. we really are all fucked.

  188. Hi there! This blog post could not be written any better!
    Reading through this article reminds me of my previous roommate!
    He always kept preaching about this. I will forward this post to him.
    Fairly certain he’s going to have a great read. Thank you for sharing!

  189. someone needs to education her on how to stay out of jail

    The witness must answer all questions truthfully under penalty of perjury. The witness can request a recess in response to a question in order to consult with counsel outside the grand jury room. The witness may refuse to answer any question on the ground that a truthful answer might tend to incriminate the witness, or lead to the discovery of evidence that might tend to incriminate the witness. Since the Fifth Amendment protects this privilege to refuse to answer, no witness can be punished for refusing to answer a question on the basis of asserting the Fifth Amendment. Properly subpoenaed witnesses who refuse to appear before the grand jury, or who appear but refuse to answer questions without asserting the Fifth Amendment, may be held in contempt of the grand jury and jailed until such time as they agree to answer the question, or the grand jury term expires, whichever happens first.

    http://my.firedoglake.com/mason/tag/grand-jury-subpoena/

  190. As someone who recently served on a Grand Jury, I can tell you a few things are incorrect in this article. There are 23 jurors, not 24. And the defendant typically doesn’t testify because it’s not in their best interest a majority of the time. A Grand Jury hears the prosecuting Assistant District Attorneys presenting evidence. If a defendant CHOOSES to testify, they have to swear in and understand that their testimony can be used in a criminal trial later on. I don’t agree with this kind of SWAT team arrest, or intimidating people for reading what they want, or protesting, but this story doesn’t add up. It’s simply not how the process works. Nobody is forced to testify at a Grand Jury, they’re not even required to be there.

    • Grand Jury implementation is different in every state. In California the number is usually 19, sometimes as low as eleven. In Kentucky the minimum number of jurors is twelve. Generally throughout the country it is 23 though, you are correct.

  191. You’re reference of owning Karl Marx literature was in fact a crime at one point in time and even today we communists cannot hold any public office or state job such as a janitor in the capital building, police officer, etc. The Texas Criminal and Traffic Law handbook states that communists are violent terrorists that only wish to overthrow our government. This is completely off from the truth so plain and simple Capitalism will have its way with whomever it pleases and we can do nothing about it until all peoples of our country unite instead of dividing over religion and work ethic. We can all be in a warehouse working together but when we go home the public figures start filling everyone’s minds with hatred for each other.

  192. If you want to understand what is going wrong with the USA, it is simple.

    The Bilderberg Group is controlling your country (and the rest of the world, so don’t feel too bad).

    This is not conspiracy theory, it is common knowledge. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group

    They fully control and own the World Bank, IMF, World Trade Commission and numerous other organizations whose job it is to keep the global economy in chains by maintaining a system of debt and Interest in which poor countries may never pay off their debts to the G20 nations (again, common knowledge to anyone who has ever studied political science, world history, economy, etc…).

    They OWN us all. At least, they think they do, because technically, they own everything. Even your house; because they own the banks that own your entire cities.

    The US Presidential candidates as well as the Canadian Prime Minister candidates, as well as many other elected leaders of other countries, such as Australia, England, Germany, etc… have almost ALL been members of The Bilderberg Group, on both sides of the political spectrum. With the exception of very few.

    The Bilderberg Group have an agenda that is secret and exclusive to their members.

    People such as Juan Carlos I of Spain, and Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands, have attended their secret meetings. Prominent politicians from North America and Europe are past attendees.

    In past years, board members from many large publicly traded corporations have attended, including IBM, Xerox, Royal Dutch Shell, Nokia and Daimler.

    The 2009 meeting participants in Greece included Greek prime minister Kostas Karamanlis; Finnish prime minister Matti Vanhanen; Sweden foreign minister Carl Bildt; United States Deputy Secretary of State James Steinberg; U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner; World Bank president Robert Zoellick; European Commission head José Manuel Barroso; Queen Sofia of Spain; and Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands.

    Why they attend these secret meetings of the elitist of the most rich and wealthy in the world, as well as CEO’s of the largest and most influential and powerful organizations in the world; is not revealed to the public. They even have private military guards that have veto power over provincial and federal authorities to patrol and guard their annual meetings.

    No one is allowed to know what they discuss or what the purpose of these highly elite and exclusive meetings is. And I once heard a quote that explains why. “Good works are done in the light of day for all to praise; Evil is done under cover of darkness and secrecy”.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bilderberg_participants

    Do not be easily mislead. Read all the facts, from all perspectives. Your conscience will reveal TRUTH.

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  194. This article doesn’t really give much detail and focuses heavily on painting Plante & Duran as innocent little angel students being bullied by the big bad government. You know what, that could be absolutely true, but the article doesn’t provide enough information to even come close to proving that. Still, though, everyone is ready to jump on the issue and agree with the author. I’m sure Grand Juries have been used in the past to cover things up, etc but that doesn’t automatically mean that is what’s happening in here. Grand Juries serve a very useful purpose in our court system and there is a real need to keep the proceedings secret for a variety of reasons, including the avoidance of tainting the jury pool if the case makes it to trial. So I know it’s fun and popular to crap all over the legal system, but when you do so without individual case facts or general information about how/why our system works… well you are making yourself sound like a child throwing a temper tantrum, and no one who matters will take you seriously. How do we know Plante & Duran weren’t a part of some nefarious group planning to bomb buildings or whatever? Maybe the government is just trying to figure out who was responsible for the May Day vandalism? Remember, THAT’S THE GOVERNMENT’S JOB– to protect its citizens from harm and seek justice against those who break the law. Should the government not go after suspects anymore, simply because they are cute young college kids? I won’t deny that I am personally skeptical about certain elements of our government, and I also won’t deny that I believe our individual rights are in danger of being eroded. But I also wouldn’t jump on the bandwagon and accuse the government of wrongdoing every time I am presented with an article describing a case involving seemingly innocent young people with almost no facts. That would just be unintelligent.

    • OH WOW,WOW.WOW. I may not be educated, but I am a part of this chaos, I live in chesterfield Va, a man was accused of trying to rally anarchists he was an ex military officer. Speaking out, even for forms black banned. Curiously he was “detained and psychologically analyzed” Then curiously I could find no posts at all with in the media.. Now take a look. There are truth and lies, abounding. That are adding up. Though most uneducated they are not blind or stupid. chaos more chaos and more chaos. You call it jumpin the bandwagon, I call it a time for change.
      Lies all come to light one day in one shape or form, in 20 years It could be nuclear.
      Do you not see what is truly happening. Courts or no. THE people ARE RISING. AGAINST. what could we do to stop it? Say they can look at you right now in your home with your webcam? Conspiracy? I don’t think so. You see weird things all the time. We are blinded by a system. We can make Nuclear warheads, but not green energy first. No its the people like (outsiders) whose opinions truly count. Because maybe, just maybe One voice of effing reason could change it all. Or the many collectively. Just don’t terrorise be peaceful. Or you could just read my views, and cast your own opinion in my post “THE WORLD, OUR WORLD YOUR WORLD”

  196. Wow, WOW, wow. WOW. I live in richmond, The chaos is ridiculous! We are all so very blind. Anarchy is now such a broad term and it should be upgraded. We are allowed to speak. Just not “act”
    The world
    our world
    Your world
    Is not a toy, we need a better system that breeds no chaos. I’ve shared my thoughts of this in “the world, our world, your world”
    People complain and do nothing: breeding chaos The government is adding to that chaos. We can make movements and take it before the grand jury. I’m just saying its “Very curious.” I hope I’m not subpoenaed next =/ Though I’ve been saying this would happen for years. The ‘continued chaos”

  198. While Matt and KteeO have been moved out of solitary and into general population (which is a very good thing) and greeted like heroes there – they still need your support. The link below gives several options of things you can do for them directly (address you can write them letters to, book wish lists) as well as direct support for their defense fund. There is also a link to online petitions for their release and other virtual options.

    Do what you can, dont let them be forgotten.

    http://funologist.org/2012/10/23/who-are-matt-duran-and-kteeo-and-why-are-they-so-important/

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